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Tuesday, November 15, 2011

DAN SIEGEL Interview with RACHEL MADDOW

MUST WATCH if you are involved in any OCCUPY or are part of 99%.

In her INTERVIEW segment she has on Dan Siegel renowned civil rights Attorney. He resigned as Oakland Mayor Jean Quan's unpaid rights advisor at 2AM night prior when she let pressure from OAKLAND BANKS push her into evicting Occupy Oakland.

 In this interview he totally validates all the Occupy Movement  stands for and is doing!  GET OUT THERE AND HELP THEM!

First minutes of video are an Elizabeth Warren ad. Dan starts at 5:00. See TRANSCRIPT below.



Here is transcript:  from  http://tinyurl.com/7bl6hzg


There were a lot of arrests today at "Occupy Oakland" again. Before 
dawn this morning, hundreds of Oakland police officers armed with batons
entered the park that has been the site of "Occupy Oakland." They arrested
people. They took down about 100 tents.
Oakland`s mayor, Jean Quan, who ordered the park to be cleared, toured
the former site of the encampment. This raid was far less confrontational
than the last one three weeks on October 25th. Then police violently
cleared out protesters only to see a mass revulsion at their tactics.
There were a number of injuries, including the serious wounding of an
Iraq war veteran, a Marine named Scott Olsen, whose skull was fractured by
a blunt object, allegedly by a projectile fired by police officers. Scott
Olsen was released from the hospital this weekend. He posted this picture
of himself online as of last night.
"Occupy Oakland" protests came back from that October police action
bigger than they had been before. This right now is a shot of what "Occupy
Oakland" looked like just moments ago, reports of between 500 and 1,000
people reconvening after they were cleared out this morning, reconvening in
downtown Oakland.
Joining us tonight for the interview is a man who resigned his
volunteer advisory position with Oakland Mayor Jean Quan and protest of the
police action today at "Occupy Oakland." His name is Dan Siegel.
Mr. Siegel, thanks very much for your time tonight. I appreciate the
chance to talk with you about this.
DAN SIEGEL, RESIGNED AS ADVISOR TO OAKLAND MAYOR: My pleasure.
MADDOW: Why did you choose to resign at 2:00 a.m. this morning?
SIEGEL: You know, I was very unhappy with the police raid on the
"Occupy Oakland" camp on October 25th, and in a conversation with some of
the protesters after that raid. They challenged me about continuing to
work for the city administration. And I said I was really thinking about
it, but I decided to stay and hope that the policy of allowing the camp to
resume would be followed.
But when it became clear early this morning that 600 or 700 riot
police were on their way to downtown Oakland to take 100 people out of
tents they`d been occupying, I wrote an e-mail to the mayor and said I
couldn`t be part of that.
MADDOW: Obviously, you disagree with the mayor`s decision. But
having worked closely with her and having known her for many, many years,
do you have any insight into why she believed that the protest must go?
She said her words tonight, I`m paraphrasing, that the movement will
continue but keep cannot sleep out in Oakland anymore in order to make
their point.
SIEGEL: Well, the movement will continue. I certainly agree with
that. And I think people will sleep out, if not in city hall plaza, in
some place elsewhere they choose to stay.
I think that`s really where I disagree with Mayor Quan and other city
officials. They just don`t see, in my opinion, the scope of this movement.
This is a tremendous movement. It`s a productive movement.
It`s a progressive movement of people who have been passive for years
in the face of economic attacks, homelessness, joblessness, foreclosures,
crushing student debt and so on. I think it has the potential to really
remake American society. And if that`s true, then people who run cities
and particularly cities like Oakland, where the 99 percent live and face
all the problems I mentioned, should be supportive of those movements and
should not think that they can control them.
You know, the other piece, Rachel, is beyond just the politics of
whose side are you on. To me, it seems like a totally useless and futile
activity to spend millions of dollars to take people out of tents, to
create situations where there was bloodshed in our streets and lots of
chaos for days because they`re going to come back. This is a movement that
can`t be stopped. I think it makes no sense to waste the meager budgets
that we have in places like Oakland in fighting with folks who are trying
to make things better.
MADDOW: What can you imagine -- as somebody who helped try to take
responsibility for the way that Oakland is governed, and your advisory role
with the mayor, until you resigned, what can you imagine in terms of a
reasonable accommodation that the city could make to stop confronting the
protesters and instead to allow them to stay in order to say their piece?
SIEGEL: Well, you know, I think the first thing is that people in
city hall have to get to know the protesters. I spent many, many hours
with them at the general assemblies and other activities and the vast
majority of them are incredibly reasonable, intelligent, thoughtful,
tolerant people. And I believe that if there had been more of an effort on
the part of the city government to actually get to know them, they would
have been successful in persuading the occupiers to meet the city`s demands
in terms of making sure that the park was clean and the sanitation was
maintained and the police and fire departments would be allowed access when
it was necessary for them to come in.
But I think there was just an attitude that got created very early on
of people stereotyping each other. I think that`s what created the
problem.
And then in the last week, there was tremendous pressure,
unfortunately, on Mayor Quan from some of the more conservative members of
the Oakland City Council and from people in the Chamber of Commerce and
others who used the fact that there was a shooting near the camp last
Friday as, in my view, an excuse to demand it be shut down.
And at the end of the day, the mayor was just unable to stand up in
the face of that kind of hostility.
MADDOW: Dan, I guess, city mayors and other authorities around the
country look to the experience of Oakland to make their own decisions about
what to do with their own occupy encampments. There are a thousand of
these across the country.
Obviously, you advocate local officials get to know the protesters,
and so, they`re not making decisions based on stereotypes. From what
you`ve done and what you think Oakland has done wrong, is there advice you
have for local authorities, local police departments, local mayors in
making decisions on what to do about this movement?
SEIGEL: Well, I think people do have to understand that this movement
is the 99 percent and that the goals are really important goals that we
should all be working for.
And I think there has to be a spirit of compromise. Go to the general
assemblies. Wait your turn to speak. Address the people who were there
and spend time with them, because at the end of the day, we should be
making common cause with the occupy movement to make the sorts of changes
that are necessary to have a fair taxation system, to curb the power of the
big banks, to deal with student loans and foreclosures and so on.
MADDOW: Dan Siegel, civil rights attorney who was a volunteer legal
adviser to the Oakland Mayor Jean Quan before his resignation early this
morning -- Mr. Siegel, thanks for taking time to explain this to us. I
really appreciate your time, sir.
SIEGEL: Thank you for having me on.

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